Jolly Old Muslim England
A foster parent in the UK that has cared for 80 foster children has been erased from the foster parenting rolls because a teenage girl under her care converted to Christianity from Islam.
The unidentified girl has been returned to her family even though it was an attack by a family member that landed the girl in foster care to begin with.
From the Daily Mail:
The woman insisted that, although she was a Christian, she had put no pressure on the Muslim girl, who was 16 at the time, to be baptised.So, after the girl voluntarily converted to Christianity, state counselors jumped to the defense of Islam trying to convert the girl back to the religion of peace. Then, they sent the girl back to her home where there is a history of abuse, and where, incidentally, apostasy may be punishable by death.
But council officials allegedly accused her of failing to ‘respect and preserve’ the child’s faith and tried to persuade the girl to reconsider her decision.
The carer, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is now preparing to take legal action against the council with the support of the girl, now 17, who also cannot be named.
Her case follows the controversy over Caroline Petrie, 45, the Christian nurse in Somerset suspended without pay in December for offering to pray for an elderly woman patient. She was reinstated this week.
Yesterday, Christians expressed outrage over the foster carer’s treatment, saying that it was a basic right for people to be able to change their religion and the woman should be praised, not punished.
Mike Judge, a spokesman for the Christian Institute, a pressure group which is funding her case, said: ‘I cannot imagine that an atheist foster carer would be struck off if a Christian child in her care stopped believing in God.
‘This is the sort of double standard which Christians are facing in modern Britain. In recent months, we have seen grandparents, a nurse, adoption agencies, firemen, registrars, elderly care homes and now a foster carer being punished because of the Christian beliefs they hold. It has got to stop.’
The carer, a mother-of-two in her 50s, has worked with young children for much of her life and became a foster parent for the local authority in the North of England in 1999. In 2007, she was asked to look after the girl, who had been assaulted by a family member.
"In the child's best interest" has no translation in old English.
Cranmer has more.
The foster mother has also had a second young girl removed from her care, presumably to protect her from the potential abuse of ever hearing about Jesus, or of witnessing the sacrificial works of a loving mother. The Christian Institute observes that an atheist foster mother would not be struck off if a Christian child in her care stopped believing in God.
But Cranmer would go further. No Muslim (or Sikh or Hindu) foster carer would be struck off if a ‘Christian child’ in their care became sufficiently interested in these faiths to convert.
4 comments:
As the pope has declared this century to be to the one to bring Muslims to Christ,so these bible thumpers do any thing to misguide,lie about Islam, to bring them to christianty, common reasons tought at school, don,t marry in your familes,islam supresses women,no freedom, no alcahol, no music etc,the youngsters are easily brainwashed,and as a result they rebel against their own pearents and get rejected in their comunaty,when they will never be considered equeals in the indigious comunaty , thus these youngsters loose out , but the hot gossplers are not bothered they want numbers to show the holy father they are doing their job.
Is apostasy punishable by death in Islam? The answer to that one question clears up all the others.
In the name of God, Most Beneficent, Most Merciful. Ruler, Cherisher, Sustainer of the Universe.
Apostasy and Islam: A commentary by a "former" apostate
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The following was sent to us by a "revert" to Islam. It offers a logical insight to dealing with apostasy in light of the Holy Quran. Please note we are fully aware of the rulings of various states regarding apostasy and are also aware that treason which is a form of apostasy is punishable by death in the states of Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, and Louisiana. We also know this law existed in England only up until 1999.
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A couple of weeks ago during question-answer session in our center, a member inquired about the punishment for apostasy in Islam. It is the prevalent belief among some Muslims (especially the isolated ones) that according to Shari'a, the apostate must be put to death.
I was once an apostate and openly declared I did not believe in Islam and rejected even the existence of God. Thank God! I was then living in a country where people did not execute apostates. I thank God for giving me a chance to repent and return to the fold of Islam. I, being an apostate once, became free from the cultural and ethnic Islam to study true Islam with an open mind. "Islamic scholars" and Imams do not anymore control my mind and beliefs unless their decrees (fatwas) are (1) in conformity with the Quran, (2) the hadith that they quote do not contradict the Quran.
I believe that many Muslims are reluctant to speak up because many "Islamic" cultures today encourage docility and teach to unquestioningly accept the decisions of "qualified" scholars. This is a new phenomenon; in the time of Muhammad (pbuh), ideas were only supported after they had been proven to be in harmony with the Quran. Scholars could not just pull rank, as they were expected to be able to argue their cases. In fact, in a famous incident of Islamic history, a humble woman of Medina publicly corrected the Caliph. One day, Hazrat Umar was announcing a change in the rule mahr, when the woman in the crowd suddenly stopped him in his track by loudly quoting a verse of the Quran which contradicted his proposal. He had to relent, saying, "The women of Medina know the Quran better than Umar." So, it is time for Muslims to question the imams and scholars if they deviate from the Quran and hadith that do not contradict the Quran. We must not only be satisfied by the answer of the scholars, but we must verify the source of their references. Remember, if Hazrath Umar can make a mistake, ordinary scholars and ordinary people like us also can make greater mistakes.
The Quran and the sayings of the Prophet require Muslims to think critically. Pagans are repeatedly berated for not questioning, for not using reason, even being compared to dumb animals on several occasions!
"When it is said unto them: 'Follow that which Allah has revealed:' they say: 'Nay! We shall follow the ways of our fathers.' What! Even though their fathers were void of wisdom and guidance?....Deaf, dumb, blind, therefore they have no sense." (2:170-171)
"He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book....." (3:7)
"Will they not then ponder on the Quran? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found herein much incongruity." (4:83)
So, the principle established here is that (1) Muslims are required to think critically and not blindly accept the authority of their scholars, and (2) that the clear message of the Quran is to be preferred to any isolated law interpretation which contradicts the Quran's clear spirit.
The Quran teaches that human beings are individually responsible. So, I believe that Allah would not forgive my sins on the Day of Judgment even if my sins were the result of following the advice of a certain Imam. I would not be able to hide behind any Imam or behind his fatwa even if coming from the most respected and revered Imam of any time. Therefore, views expressed here are my opinions based on the references given. I do not claim to be a scholar, but there are sometimes cases where the violation of the Quran is so self-evident that all Muslims can see them.
I believe that inhuman law of apostasy has nothing to do with Islam of the Prophet (s) and it is an interpolation into Islam by fanatics among us and the selfish rulers. There are many reasons for me to believe that execution for apostasy is a manufactured law rather than divine law.
The Prophet spent his entire life fighting in defence of fundamental human rights that everybody should be free to choose his religion; no one must be physically forced to change religion. The Prophet struggled with the Meccan establishment to have the freedom to invite non-believers to Islam. This was consistent with the practices of all other Prophets.
The Quran states:
"...There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is here forth distinct from error..." (2:256)
In the light of the above verse, a person has to be insane to belief that Islam prescribes execution for apostasy.
The Quran further states:
"Say (Muhammad it is) truth from Lord of all. Whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, Let him disbelieve." (18:29)
In no uncertain terms, Allah commands Prophet to allow people to believe and disbelieve. If the Shari'a recommends to kill an apostate, this law cannot be Islamic because it contradicts the above two verses.
The Quran further states:
"And so, O Prophet, exhort them, thy task is ONLY to exhort; thou canst NOT compel them to believe." (88:21-22)
"Thy duty is to make the message reach them; it is OUR PART to call them to account." (13:40)
"Call thou (all mankind) unto thy Sustainer's path with wisdom and goodly exhortation, and argue with them in MOST KINDLY MANNER..." (16:125)
While the Quran commands the Prophet not to compel people to believe in Islam and invite people with the most kind manner and words, fanatics among us threaten people with death mercilessly to keep them in the Muslim Ummah as hypocrites as if the dishonest hypocrites are better than honest apostates. It is a most heinous crime against Islam and the Prophet (s) to manufacture an inhuman law of execution of apostate. If the Quranic verses tell the Prophet not to compel people to believe in Islam (88:22) and the responsibility to call disbelievers to account rests with God only (1:40), the law of execution of apostates is of human origin.
Initial reluctance of the people of Arabia to accept Islam disturbed Prophet. Then the following verse was revealed:
"And had your Lord willed, whoever in the earth would have believed all together, will you then coerce people to become believers? (10:99)
According to the above verse, even God will not coerce people to become Muslims or remain as Muslim once a person accepts Islam. So, Muslims must condemn the law of apostasy and save innocent Muslims becoming intolerant and violent by the heinous indoctrination by fanatics among us because Allah says:
"Who can be more wicked than the one who invent a lie against God,..." (6:93)
So, religious belief is a personal matter. It is God alone --not the state or religious authorities--who know what is in the heart of the people. If the highest human authority, Prophet (s), cannot call anyone to account for belief or disbelief, no sane person can believe that religious scholars and the state have the authority to execute people for their personal belief.
The Quran states:
"A section of the People of the Book say: 'Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, Bur reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back." (3:72)
The People of the Book mentioned in the verse are Jews of the Medina. These Jews used a tactic to create doubt among the Muslims in the hope that some of them might thereby be beguiled into repudiating Islam. How could it be possible for Jews to have enacted this plan to entice Muslims to believe one day and reject next, if death was the penalty for apostasy? The tactic of the People of the Book mentioned in this verse also exposes the un-Islamic apostasy law of the fanatics among us.
Abdullah b.Ubayy b.Salul was the leader of the munafiqun (hypocrites). But The Prophet took no action against him. Prophet prayed for him and stayed at the grave until he was buried. Those fanatics among us must explain the reason for Prophet not executing the known hypocrites like Abdullah b.Ubayy. Ubbay lived until death plotting to destroy Islam and Prophet knew it. He was not executed for apostasy. This suggests that apostasy law is not a divine law but interpolation by fanatics among us.
Another verse states:
"Those who believe, then reject Faith, then believe (again) and again reject Faith, go on increasing in Unbelief--God will not forgive them nor guide them on the Way." (4:137)
An apostate cannot enjoy the repeated luxury of believing and disbelieving if punishment is death. A dead man has no further chance of again believing and disbelieving. Furthermore, if taken at face value, this verse indicates that God will only withdraw His guidance after repeated rejections. It does not tell The Prophet to kill these apostate. So, what right do these religious authorities and Imams have to deprive a person of access to that divine guidance after the first?
The Quran states:
"How shall God guide those who reject faith after they accepted it and bore witness that the apostle was true and that clear signs had come unto them? But God guides not a people unjust. Of such the reward is that on them (rests) the curse of the God, of His Angels, and of all mankind;--In that will they dwell; nor will their penalty be lightened, nor respite be their lot;--except for those that repent (even) after that, make amends; For verily God is oft-forgiving, most merciful." (3:86-89)
It is obvious from the these verses that no punishment is to be inflicted by one man or another for apostasy. By no stretch of the imagination can the phrase, "curse of Allah," be interpreted to be a license to murder anyone who he considers to be an apostate. If any such commandment was prescribed it would have been clearly defined as all other punishments are in the Holy Quran.
The fact is that the Quran even mentions that apostates can be forgiven if they amend and repent. How could they repent if apostates are killed? By forced repentance? Then, does not Quran state that there is no compulsion in religion? The one verse that states that there is no compulsion in religion should be enough for a fair minded person to realize that Islam does not teach death to apostates.
Finally, can any one hadith suggesting to kill the apostate invalidate all the Qur'anic verses quoted earlier? We, Muslims, blame the West for anti-Muslim reporting. What do you expect from the West if we provide the sticks to beat us up? So, Muslim brothers and sisters, stand up for justice and against injustice. Will you object the persecution of the new Muslim convert for his apostasy by his erstwhile co-religionists? If we believe that it is injustice to kill a new Muslim by non-Muslims for his apostasy from his former faith, you must give the same just treatment to Muslims who become Christians, Jews and Atheists. Let Allah call to account those people who left Islam.
I, like many Muslims, am still bitter over smear jobs done on my religion by Western media over the Gulf war, and the Rushdie affair. So, the last thing that I want is to see Islam slandered all over again because of the barbaric and un-Islamic apostasy law. Ask yourselves: what kind of religion kills people for simple choice of faith, a change of heart? Not a religion of love and peace, not a religion worthy of respect! Perpetuation of the law to kill apostates can only increase or create doubts in the heart of the Muslims and potential Muslims, as people everywhere are already bombarded by negative images of Islam.
My message to those Muslims who, like me, yearn to see Islam grow in the West: Dawa will never be successful in the West as long as crazy nonsense of law of apostasy is unchallenged by Muslims. If Muhammed Ali, Cat Stevens, and Murad Hoffman were harassed by a reactionary Christian group, the Muslims will be up in arms! We must be consistent.
In closing, Islam is only vulnerable when Muslims abandon its clear teaching of reason, tolerance, and peace.
The passages you have cut and pasted here do not specifically address apostasy but rather deal with those who are conquered. A separate set of rules apply to the conquered...they may convert to Islam, pay the jizya as dhimmis, or die. People are not required to convert by the sword, though the alternatives are anything but rosy.
As far as apostasy goes, Mohammad himself said “If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.”
I leave you with this link from a Muslim scholar.
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